Here's a look at where the ACC's 17 programs stand after Week 4 of the college football season, with North Carolina and NC State plummeting

Reports of the Clemson Tigers' demise have been exaggerated. Never mind that said demise came from many of the same people who called the proverbial time of death on Swinney and Clemson football like a scene from some long-forgotten soap opera.

N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren yells at Anthony Belton (74) as he comes off the field after he was called for a penalty during the first half of N.C. State’s game against Clemson at Memorial Stadium in Clemson,