Here is a conversation I never thought I would ever be having. Ann Marie Walts, owner of Loft Salon Studio, is with me today ...

And men? The memory of footballers with shaggy perms in the eighties looms large for many - who could forget Kevin Keegan's famous tight curls when he was at the height of his career on the pitch?

Marketed primarily to Black men and women, the Jheri curl was ... then create more of the desired curl pattern with the perm rod rollers. For those with thick or extra-frizzy hair, Vercher says ...